tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post6852870596306880728..comments2024-03-27T03:46:07.097-07:00Comments on Raman's strategic analysis: THE HINDUTVA STORM-TROOPERSB.RAMANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12278000644746170031noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-1007022887209524702013-02-12T08:22:32.262-08:002013-02-12T08:22:32.262-08:00sir i am a great admirer of yours..sir i am a great admirer of yours..immu070https://www.blogger.com/profile/07902528392557746902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-91473957416248869962011-02-12T10:40:21.114-08:002011-02-12T10:40:21.114-08:00B Raman garu,
It is funny to read your "Hind...B Raman garu,<br /><br />It is funny to read your "Hindutva Storm Troopers" post. While, you do not mind painting some saffron color on anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with your posts/tweets; you cry foul when others do the same to you, by calling you a congressi ;)<br /><br />You cannot expect others sit quite while you raise this saffron-terrorism without any proof and start supporting Rahul Gandhi's of the day, who have no qualification except being born into a certain family. <br /><br />Those days of people accepting everything a person from high-position says are long gone. Internet offers the commoners an unbiased forum to access, read and comment on any issue. <br /><br />That is the new way of life. As an erudite and experienced person, I hope you see the writing on the wall and adjust your thinking accordingly.<br /><br />The moral of the story is; my respect for you cannot blind me from seeing the truth. <br /><br />Regards,RamaYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04274627542578961474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-22095998662120663732011-02-03T04:50:46.403-08:002011-02-03T04:50:46.403-08:00I think your problem is that you think of Internet...I think your problem is that you think of Internet/blogs/twitter as a publishing medium, a way to convey your thoughts without getting any feedback. I have looked at your posts on the blog and have failed to find even a single comment by you in response to other commenters. I think you should try responding to people who read your posts and are trying to either better understand your position or to counter it.HPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16657897419966768600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-85233806624321250422011-02-01T00:15:55.010-08:002011-02-01T00:15:55.010-08:00Respected Shri Ramanji
We at THE VERDICT and The I...Respected Shri Ramanji<br />We at THE VERDICT and The Independent Media of India, as usual stand by you. You are a real patriotic, not a traitor like other former bureaucrats and self-styled politicians, who=ever-it-may be.<br />Vande Mataram, Jai Hindhttp://www.theverdictindia.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11002638355547662434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-34677011809742470102011-01-31T04:06:51.368-08:002011-01-31T04:06:51.368-08:00Dear Mr.Raman,
I am one of those who appreciate ...Dear Mr.Raman,<br /> I am one of those who appreciate your in depth analysis. I am also one of those very active on Twitter, with vocal support to RSS on many issues. <br /><br />However, I hardly talk about Hindutva. So, the first message to you is that not everyone right of center in political views in India are automatically 'Hindutva troopers'.<br /><br />Secondly, abuse of Twitter of any social network is not limited to one ideology. It's sad that you had to face the wrath of some who also happened to be on the same side of political leanings as me. My apologies, even though I have not followed it. You should spend a few minutes learning about how social network abuse happens from all corners.<br /><br />Thirdly and most importantly, I fail to understand why your post and followup blogpost (29th Jan)was so emotional. Sir, welcome to uncensored & unrestricted new electronic age (even though your blog disallows anonymous comments still). Gone are the days of TV channels conducting 'agenda' discussions involving sham 'intellectuals'. The cat is out of the bag. With just 3 million or so Twitter users, India has seen a huge impact following "Barkha Gate" aka Radia tapes already. It's best to learn to swim in this new current, by taking criticism for what's worth it, effectively ignoring those who cross a personal line and most importantly, not giving up what you want to say.<br /><br />Please do keep writing blogs. Do tweet with your real name & picture. Don't quit.<br /><br />Your friendly,<br />"Non Hindutva trooper" RSS Fan<br />- Kiran<br />http://www.Twitter.com/KiranKSKiran KShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11410963824919626970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-87695407333789842522011-01-30T23:36:56.895-08:002011-01-30T23:36:56.895-08:00Mr. Raman,
As regular readers of your blog, we c...Mr. Raman,<br /><br /><br />As regular readers of your blog, we cannot agree more with your sentiments that the use of foul language and personal remarks on twitter or the blogosphere are deplorable. <br />However, some of the criticism levelled against you is laced with language which while not amiable is also not foul or personal. We do recognise instances where they claim to view prejudice in your opinions.<br /><br />Let me point out a few of our own. You described the people who employed disparaging remarks against you as "RSS Guys". While it is tempting and all too convenient to view those perturbed by your opinions as the same people you intended to speak of in those opinions, there is no way to validate those views. That would be akin to me penning an article against say, indiscriminate and unregulated teaching of a radical branch of Christian philosophy, and then labelling any subsequent rude remarks made against me with respect to that article as made by the "Vatican Church guys" or "YMCA Guys" or "Altar boys". In your case, it could and most likely would be people who are sympathetic with the RSS ideology, yet have a half-baked understanding of it. Sounds familiar? If it does then that's probably because those are the exact kind of people who have also hijacked Islam in recent decades. Hence the term 'jihadist Islam" or "radical Islam" and not 'Jama Masjid Coalition' or the "Nation of Islam stooges". It is correct for you to point out this phenomena and how the moderates cannot remain silent. But to label someone 'RSS Guys' would be a gross disservice to fair editorial standards which every blog author is expected to adhere to. <br /><br /><br />It is also not unfathomable to imagine that these comments came from regular people. Regular people who do as a matter of fact, curse and make noise in everyday India. The remarks you saw could be what happens when they are provided internet access. It could be a knee-jerk reaction to your coverage. Our point being, that there always will be less than desirable people who frequent your blogs/twitter and post harsh comments. Sadly, the only remedy in such cases is to be thick-skinned at the detractors and also to distinguish baseless personal comments from comments you might disagree with. For these reasons, we find that the fault lies not entirely at the people you complain of. A large part of it can regrettably be traced to the phraseology used in your opinions.Wallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01379459596361974502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-90116379537261782692011-01-30T22:55:46.632-08:002011-01-30T22:55:46.632-08:00Dear Sir,
Internet has become a place for intel...Dear Sir,<br /> Internet has become a place for intellectual cowards who mistake name calling for debate. I hope you ignore them and continue to write for the silent majority that is enlightened by your objective and fair analysis and has very high respect for your fairness, analysis, objectivity and judgement. <br /><br />Sincerely,<br /> Shiva.Siva Chinnasamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552473188839540467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-68351709839436931812011-01-30T18:13:22.992-08:002011-01-30T18:13:22.992-08:00Dear Sir, you may be overreacting to a well-known ...Dear Sir, you may be overreacting to a well-known internet phenomenon--anonymity brings out extremists and abusers, and there is not much to be done about it. <br /><br />The phenomenon of storm-troopers (as you call them) and chamcha-types who only want to hear good things about their political masters is not new nor is it confined to Hindutva. It is a sad reflection of Indian political thinking as a whole. As an experiment, try laying the blame for originating mass-murder of ethnic minorities where it belongs, with Rajeev Gandhi who invented the "if a big tree falls, the earth shakes" justification, which was later adopted by Narendra Modi. <br /><br />I suspect you would have more to worry about in that case than a few abusive brainless hotheads letting off steam.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />MurthyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11044063976518355401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-21416359340239177322011-01-29T19:25:57.184-08:002011-01-29T19:25:57.184-08:00The way you wrap your criticism against the CONgre...The way you wrap your criticism against the CONgress is really funny, because you claim to say things as is. There is hardly any damning things we have heard from you against the CONgress. On the other hand you have supported lunatic statements by the clown prince. That probably tells about the quality of your analysis of late.<br /><br />As for your ranting against your foes, the Hindus, well you do deliver a bunch of no holds barred punches, under the slightest provacation.<br /><br />And oh, btw, you are also the victim here.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03198280207571337370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-73307055542671329622011-01-29T18:47:04.901-08:002011-01-29T18:47:04.901-08:00Dear Mr. Raman, this is the second time these atta...Dear Mr. Raman, this is the second time these attacks are happening to you and has to be strongly condemned.<br /><br />I agree with many of your views, and disagree with many, and you have duly posted most if not all of my few comments in either situation. That is admirable.<br /><br />If we only follow blogs of those we agree with, we risk going into a bubble and not progress in our thinking and get closer to the truth. <br /><br />I hope you can hire the services of a tech geek or find a trusted volunteer who protects your space online as much as possible. <br /><br />We may like your analysis or dislike it, but its hard to ignore because your writings indicate that you are your own man and i hope u can continue to be that. Please keep going.Shivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05571015480979394896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-22573782250103483512011-01-29T16:12:40.586-08:002011-01-29T16:12:40.586-08:00Dear Raman,
Person of your status is expected to w...Dear Raman,<br />Person of your status is expected to write backed by facts, just making sweeping remark like “Modi's ideology as negative and divisive”, makes you one among Burkhas and Sanghavis. Sadly, by name calling all those who criticized you as “hindutva**, you have proved that you are no different than those who ABUSED(?) you as Sonia/Rahul/Digvijay‘s man. <br />However, I greatly appreciate your articles on international affairs. Request you to stick there. Wishing you good health.Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15100483530143175642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-391528694193651182011-01-29T10:07:48.062-08:002011-01-29T10:07:48.062-08:00Sir,
With the same fervor, could you please blog/...Sir,<br /><br />With the same fervor, could you please blog/expose those in the media whom you tweeted regarding "Hindu Terrorism". If i am right, you had tweeted "Some big media ppl are not interested in thorough analysis of the topic, but rather wants only snippets from me that suits their story.rsriramshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368698838135693531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-50585140622079154782011-01-29T08:10:07.925-08:002011-01-29T08:10:07.925-08:00Mr Raman , I don't agree with these people .Bu...Mr Raman , I don't agree with these people .But i just want to know that do Hindu have no rights in this nation?Then let us persecuted or make us christian or Muslim - so that we can live securely. Please sir we want a name ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF INDIA- i want you barkha ,kaveri ji of twitter to do this .please do .BTW don't use twitter coz blocking them won't end their ideology .Sir also comment on Digvijay Singh's launched book which states that 26/11 was planned by RSS & JEWS. please do this sirIshanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16881520215327337924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-13222481402566218032011-01-29T06:37:14.672-08:002011-01-29T06:37:14.672-08:00Sir,
Kindly continue to post your views both on y...Sir,<br /><br />Kindly continue to post your views both on your blogs as well on Twitter. <br /><br />Your well reasoned arguments bring a fresh air of authenticity to the articles which you write on security subjects and is an very important and credible source of information to the people, even if the reader(s) don't agree to the conclusion(s). <br /><br />As regards the extreme views of some people, I guess that it is due to complete blacking out of space for alternate views in the mainstream media (newspapers, magazines & TV channels) which routinely brand all Hindus as communal and ignore blatant communal propaganda by some politicians etc. This is my guess. If MSM appears more balanced, I feel, Indian people won't get into extreme views. Social media like Twitter being free of controls, I guess, such people are venting out their anger. This is no excuse for what they do - it is only my guess as to what could be possible cause. <br /><br />I personally feel that on issues involving national security, political considerations should go and there should be only one view - whatever is good for the country - that should be the one that should be adopted and implemented.<br /><br />I hope and pray that 2011 be a better year for the aam aadmi - on various fronts viz., terrorism, inflation, corruption - each of which is killing him.<br /><br />Warm regards.Hummingbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04523393551951722703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-46220544295753481672011-01-29T04:46:42.414-08:002011-01-29T04:46:42.414-08:00I dont follow you per se.
However, I did follow y...I dont follow you per se. <br />However, I did follow your story yesterday. It is sad. <br /><br />However, I would have expected a person of your stature to ignore it. I am not upto your level, however I have an experience of being called various things. It is sad, but unavoidable. <br /><br />I would request you to please come back. Not all are bad. It will be great for people like us.Amihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12851055000564068357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-6284165977864744232011-01-29T04:36:37.469-08:002011-01-29T04:36:37.469-08:00Remaining silent would be a mistake. So would not ...Remaining silent would be a mistake. So would not responding to the vicious lies and abuses. Twitter is public space and we need to reclaim from fanatics and bigots every square inch of that. One need not respond to all the abuses and provocations, but a few well directed and intelligent thrusts every now and then should do the job. The fight has to be fought with intelligence, humour, sarcasm. Nothing bothers them more than the fact that you refuse to take them seriously, mock them occasionally or seem to carry on with the same good humour without losing your cool. That is your victory.Nilim Duttahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598081257976402428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-77189193563542214492011-01-29T04:21:35.681-08:002011-01-29T04:21:35.681-08:00Mr Raman, abuse is of course not good, and you alw...Mr Raman, abuse is of course not good, and you always have the option of blocking abusive tweeters.<br /><br />However, everyone who criticizes you does not automatically become an RSS or Hinduvta lunatic. This is such a stupid conspiracy theory flouted by some of our media-persons led by Sagarika Ghose. <br /><br />What you see is the frustration of the middle classes on the rising and brazen corruption by the ruling party, rising prices, a media that is too supportive of the ruling party (proved beyond doubt in radiagate), and extreme exaggeration of 'Hindu Terror' threat by both the ruling party and its media. <br /><br />Thanks to the internet, the Indian middle class has access to objective reports of what's happening around the world. It was not lost on the internet savvy Indians how the Indian media barely covered the events in Tunisia and up till now in Egypt. Was it due to instructions from the 'high command' for fear of a replication in India? Call it a conspiracy theory if you will, but even you indulge in that when you call your critics on twitter 'RSS brigade' or Hinduvta supporters.<br /><br />I agree with comments made on this blog by by <b>Rediscovering Sai, insane inaninities</b> and <b>Just another guy</b>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505796973145539628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-37420000020817683982011-01-29T04:02:50.239-08:002011-01-29T04:02:50.239-08:00Branding, name-calling..etc are what kids do. What...Branding, name-calling..etc are what kids do. What's the difference between you and your critics ? If you call them "RSS guys" and compare them with 'Nazis' and 'fascists' without even bothering whether they acknowledge it or not then they will surely come back to you with similar words like "Sonia's man". <br /><br />Before you "brand" others get ready to be "branded". Your holier-than-thou attitude is also responsible for your misery.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487321065968062043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-60565770650912696982011-01-29T03:58:31.190-08:002011-01-29T03:58:31.190-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12487321065968062043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-41890223423719051962011-01-29T03:46:24.350-08:002011-01-29T03:46:24.350-08:00I am just disturbed after reading this post. I hav...I am just disturbed after reading this post. I have seen recent trend on twitter, who ever criticize/oppose (I am not talking of abuse) Barkha, Sagarika, Bhupendra Chubey n some other are labeled as right winger, RSS , internet Hindu, lynch mob...n bla bla...<br /><br />I feel what you see is anger of Indian middle class who are not a vote bank for any one...who is helpless and continue to be fooled & looted by politicians. <br /><br />There is vote bank for minorities, castes, language...<br /><br />I was expecting as a strategic analyst you have a better view as in how media works.... would love to see a post from you on the root cause analysis on the based on all the comments mentioned to this post<br /><br />I repeat everyone who has a difference of opinion is not from RSS or Right wing...<br /><br />If some one is abusing u, plz block them<br /><br />But if some don't agree to you analysis and feel you are biased to xyz, will that be abuse?Nimbupanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13142423053188207195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-6766296667904835082011-01-29T03:32:34.139-08:002011-01-29T03:32:34.139-08:00This abusing, cursing, threatening or just speakin...This abusing, cursing, threatening or just speaking in a manner not conducive of a gentleman is not at all acceptable. This will in no way help any religious group, whoever be they. <br /> Fascists & not democrats try to suppress others thoughts & speech. Bharatiyas' will never ever accept this. <br /> This is most unfortunate & regrettable. Mr Raman majority of Hindu's are peace loving & decent. Please ignore this oppressive minority be it from any religion/ caste / creed.Eagleeye47https://www.blogger.com/profile/05647869487738229799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-19099745299633818702011-01-29T03:32:00.687-08:002011-01-29T03:32:00.687-08:00Extremely pained at the intolerance shown to your ...Extremely pained at the intolerance shown to your remarks. All I would request of you is to continue sharing your wonderful insights with all of us. <br /><br />It was not your eyes which was at fault. It is rather the age-old weakness of human psyche to be unable to tolerate differing opinions which has been on display.<br /><br />I would leave with these lines by the Father of Nation, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".<br /><br />Regards,<br />NilmadhabAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975323165324057060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-90779718379572870802011-01-29T03:07:27.138-08:002011-01-29T03:07:27.138-08:00Dear Sir, I am against abuse but should we blindly...Dear Sir, I am against abuse but should we blindly follow whatever the so called liberal journalists want us to believe in?<br />Do we not have a right to express our opinions?<br />Is this Great Indian democracy a sham?<br />Why should my voice be silenced on Twitter if I do not agree with some policy of the present government or by some errorofjudgement? <br />Disagreeing is not wrong but yes abuses are.<br />I must also bring to your notice that I have nothing to do with RSS still every now and then my twitter handle is mentioned by abusive people on Twitter and none of these abusive guys are right wingers.<br />So when do I get to see a journalist take up my case of ABUSE BY NON RIGHT WINGERS?<br />abuse takes place from both sides and one must just block and move on.IGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17715354921322135872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-5552918503521740462011-01-29T02:18:31.664-08:002011-01-29T02:18:31.664-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17519192721539015821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-35608087295594187692011-01-29T01:48:41.174-08:002011-01-29T01:48:41.174-08:00Dear Mr. Raman,
I am surprised at your choice of ...Dear Mr. Raman,<br /><br />I am surprised at your choice of words and expressions: Storm Trooper, Batallion, etc? We live ostensibly in a democracy in India. On Twitter, things truly are. Your opinions, insights and commentary is ddeply appreciated in a nation and on a nation, that does not have much of a culture of analysis or situational awareness. You may need to worry about the 140 word communication platform and your adeptness to it nevertheless.<br />You may have created an impression of falling on one side of the rather very polarised narratives, especially on this flag hoisting business. Please don't err further by torturing cliches of the Hindu Right or indulging in self pity, at least not openly. Your work is far too valuable for either. I will be happy to help you organise your Twitter affairs, should this be of interest to you.<br /><br />Keep going, we need sage advice and views.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />SIndiaspinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12843765835493797365noreply@blogger.com