tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post1403377366283106142..comments2024-03-27T03:46:07.097-07:00Comments on Raman's strategic analysis: CHINA'S STRATEGIC INTRUSIONS IN INDIA'S NEIGHBOURHOODB.RAMANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12278000644746170031noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-66637765115027969362009-09-19T21:04:04.079-07:002009-09-19T21:04:04.079-07:00India needs to focus on "getting Tibet back,&...India needs to focus on "getting Tibet back," diplomatically if not physically. With the Dalai Lama still alive and the US interest in him, it is feasible. This will China pause in its aggressive land and sea-based designed against India and force it to become more defensive. China only respects power. Only then will the boundary issue and other strategic issues related to the simultaneous rise of India and China be settled. Without Tibet, China has no incentive to show respect toward India.Active Listenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10654589305509262180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-82396168239710982732009-09-17T19:09:48.195-07:002009-09-17T19:09:48.195-07:00Dear Mr Raman:
Why talk about accomodation of any ...Dear Mr Raman:<br />Why talk about accomodation of any kind with PRC.This regime is really nothing but Chinese Nationalsocialismus.Its 1939 all over again.A deeply nationalistic communist(socialist)totalitarian and arrogant regime flexing its military muscles against its neighbour.Just as the Nazis annexed Austria,Sudetenland etc the PRC <br />has annexed Tibet and Uyghuristan<br />and of course our Aksai Chin.Should we engage and negotiate with such a regime that claims still more of our territory?<br />I say NEVER!We should also undo Jawaharlal Nehru's biggest foreign policy blunder by recognising Tibet as an independent country under foreign occupation or at <br />least threaten to do so unless Beijing backs off.We should also not hesitate in using the Uighur card to our advantage.And last but not least we need to harness all our resources to transform India into an economic powerhouse that will take on PRC anytime.I would also emphasize a strong relationship with the US,Japan and SE Asian nations to contain the PRC.<br /><br />Tarun Dattani<br />Ottawa,Onlukthecanuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16529811147948211728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-90438423587857543802009-09-15T21:57:24.750-07:002009-09-15T21:57:24.750-07:00I totally agree with Mr. Arun's opinion. The n...I totally agree with Mr. Arun's opinion. The new slogan of 'India n China r like brothers' is somewhat similar to previous slogan of 'Hindi Chini Bhai Bhai' and it once again reminds us to always be watchful of Chinese actions rather than its words. And regarding the capability of Indian army, one of the top ranked army official commented to media that India is not in a position to prevent chinese military actionsVikshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02971735216323306264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-1168497115513832742009-09-15T10:18:20.430-07:002009-09-15T10:18:20.430-07:00Dear Sir,
I think this specific article of yours ...Dear Sir,<br /><br />I think this specific article of yours has simply added on to my existing scare of Indo-China war part II. The border lines arent demarcated yet, there have been continuous incursions, and a Chinese diplomat in Mumbai says 'we are brothers'. Isnt this a repeat of 1962, particularly 'Hindi-Chini bhai bhai' slogan?<br />If your article is true, why is the government hushing things up, with the MEA spokesmen claiming no intrusions, no firing, no digging etc. Who should we believe? A blogger or the MEA spokesmen?<br />(Sir, no disrespect to your achievements - I read your book 'the Kaoboys of R&AW' which I enjoyed thoroughly. But isn't your blog more of expert analysis than actual information?)Whoknowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03698093554224607132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-30686768513099820302009-09-15T01:28:58.728-07:002009-09-15T01:28:58.728-07:00What is China's attitude regarding India? Is i...What is China's attitude regarding India? Is it just restricted to the issue of Tibet? If it were related to only Tibet they would have been happy with our acceptance of Tibet as a part of China.<br /><br />Tawang may be of historical significance to Tibetans (not the Chinese). But as somebody has in the comments section pointed out, Mount Kailash and Manasarovar are connected to us historically and culturally. If Tawang is the issue, why did they occupy Aksai Chin? Because they wanted a connection between Xinjiang and Tibet. So it is not just the Tawang issue that they are bothered with and they will not be just content with Tawang. <br /><br />You have rightly pointed out the incompetence of the country's political leadership and bureaucracy. Indian diplomats are not even able to match the skills of Pakistani diplomats. Sheikh al Sharm is a glaring example of the incompetence of our diplomats. But it is unfortunate that you have cited the opinion given by the same person who was responsible for the Shaikh al Sharm debacle (Shiv Shankar Menon) in your article on 'accommodating' China's interests.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15207455451211247794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-85439812321748124122009-09-14T20:55:15.904-07:002009-09-14T20:55:15.904-07:00Considering that the Chines Tawang obsession is re...Considering that the Chines Tawang obsession is recent, is it possible that Tawang is not the cause of recent Chinese stridency but a manifestation of Chinese discomfort with India. It could be China's way of telling India, sergeant major style, that getting close to the US will make things more difficult for it.<br /><br />China's obsession is unlikely to be Dalai Lama centric. It is more likely US centric because it is the US support His Holiness that makes him so relevant.. Tibet cannot be destabilized by India, or any other country in the world, without US connivance. <br /><br />Chinese hostility towards India has grown as has the growing proximity between India and the US.<br /><br />The US is forging deeper strategic relations with India in order to contain China. It is logical for the Chinese to remind India which neighborhood it lives in. If subtle pressure does not work, the Chinese will keep a military humiliation on the cards, something that will make India less irrelevant to US interests. <br /><br />The location of US missile defense components in India could make the Chinese nuclear deterrent in central and eastern China ineffective. That must bother the Chinese.<br /><br />Your faith in the Indian army notwithstanding, the PLA has the ability to nibble Indian territory, as it appears to be doing now, or make a much larger intrusion in Ladakh or Arunachal. Either action will embarrass India, derail its economic surge by making it focus on its military vulnerabilities, and reduce its stature in the region making it easier for the Chinese to increase their influence in our neighborhood.<br /><br />Coming back to the Indian Army, we need to be objective about its abilities and not let our patriotism or political correctness cloud our judgment. Remember the Indian Army was not even aware of the occupation of hundreds of square kilometers of our territory in Kargil.<br /><br />The Chinese incursions in Chumar, Ladakh occurred in January and the Army did not talk about it till September. <br /><br />The self introspection done by the Army after Kargil came through more as a cover up than an overhaul considering the fact that no General was held accountable.<br /><br />You are probably aware that what makes it to the press about the situation on the border is usually the tip of the proverbial iceberg.<br /><br />Chinese moves are always carefully calibrated. The Chinese are not seeking a war but a reevaluation of Indian alignments. Indian reaction to their border intrusions will dictate what they do next. They will try and maneuver into a 'Heads I win, tails you lose' posture. <br /><br />India needs to counter the Chinese with its own 'Tails I win, heads you lose' posture that forces the Chinese to change tack.<br /><br />The only way to stop the Chinese from coveting Indian territory is to create a capability to take some of theirs. If loss of territory can be humiliating for India, it can be more so for China.<br /><br />If anyone in the Indian establishment believes that India cannot or must not acquire the ability to wrest Chinese territory from them the game is up – in the favor of the Chinese.<br /><br />The bottom line: A military threat must be met with a military response and a diplomatic threat with a diplomatic response. <br /><br />There is also a need for greater transparency on what is transpiring at the northern borders. Perhaps there is a need to make the physical positions and disputed areas along the border public knowledge.Vijainder K Thakurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08354186592585940999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-19503855134151681852009-09-14T20:39:04.376-07:002009-09-14T20:39:04.376-07:00Dear Sri Raman, Every day my first duty is to read...Dear Sri Raman, Every day my first duty is to read your articles in net with my morning cup of tea. Then, once again in the mid of the day I would open your blogs or other sites to see whether you have posted any thing more. ( Besides, Mr M K Dhar is my another favorite writer, I love to read his articles also but his site is not updated everyday basis).<br /> I have always found your analysis-both on terrorism and strategic affairs- are greatly enriching. ( I have also read all your books). But so far I did not post any comment in response to your blogs.<br />This article is, indeed, a very incisive and dispassionate analysis of a critical issue. But the problem is, neither our diplomatic wiseheads nor our poltical bosses seem to be clear in their mind as to what should be done when China intrudes in a deserted icy land and Beijing keeps on denying any such move. Our people in Delhi have already bungled up our relations with other neighbors -Bangladesh, Bhutan , Sri Lanka ...and now they appear to be simply at a loss as to how a giant like China should be properly handled. By the way it looks like Myanmar too has led us to the garden path (all those hyped up Fernandes--- and even Abdul Kalam ---visits seem to be heading to end in a whimper-- I am also not sure what will be the future of the Sittwe port which Delhi is renovating ( RITES) with $13 mn for bringing in consignments from heartland India to North East avoiding a reluctant Bangladesh ( Chittagong Port)!MANAS PALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963740964923382483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704148890264843595.post-32868870395474087042009-09-14T13:54:44.899-07:002009-09-14T13:54:44.899-07:00Dear Sri. Raman,
Thank you for yet another thoug...Dear Sri. Raman,<br /> Thank you for yet another thoughtful analysis. I raised this issue earlier, but did not get any answer. <br /><br /> What do you think is the possibility of China giving India Mount Kailash and Lake Manasarover, which are dear to a billion Hindus and Buddists in India, in exchange for India giving to China areas of Ladakh which it has illegally occupied.Siva Chinnasamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09552473188839540467noreply@blogger.com